Open water swims exit - Triathlon Week

08-23-2004, 07:09 PM

I have just done an open water swim practice with my club. Also the furthest
single swim (1.5 mile) without pushing off from a pool side every 25m.
I really pushed it, done the lot, varied my breathing rhythm, practised
drafting performed some intervals. When I exited the water I felt drunk, the
floor was moving the lot. Why would this happen? If it happened in a race I
would probably fall off the bike in transition.
The water was cool but not cold and I was wearing a new Orca speedsuit which
felt good and warm, no swim hat and I felt warm leaving the water.

I also found out how badly I Zig Zag in a 'straight' line between buoys. I
was in a lake, in a swell Jeepers!
Regards
Kent

08-23-2004, 07:09 PM

"Kent" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk> wrote in message news:<ce18l5$blq$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].pol.co.uk>...
> I have just done an open water swim practice with my club. Also the furthest
> single swim (1.5 mile) without pushing off from a pool side every 25m.
> I really pushed it, done the lot, varied my breathing rhythm, practised
> drafting performed some intervals. When I exited the water I felt drunk, the
> floor was moving the lot. Why would this happen? If it happened in a race I
> would probably fall off the bike in transition.
> The water was cool but not cold and I was wearing a new Orca speedsuit which
> felt good and warm, no swim hat and I felt warm leaving the water.
>
> I also found out how badly I Zig Zag in a 'straight' line between buoys. I
> was in a lake, in a swell Jeepers!
> Regards
> Kent

Look at my other posting regarding the way blood has been redirected
in your system and then you have trouble getting all that blood back
into your legs for running out of the water. Your body was insulated
because the water went in between your suit and your body and was then
warmed up by your own temperature. This still resulted in a loss of
some body heat. Then your body compensates by pulling blood closer to
the torso to support the major life suport systems. And then you go
and complicate things by swimming hard :)

08-23-2004, 07:09 PM

For me, if I don't swim with ear plugs I get this kind of feeling.

"Kent" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk> wrote in message
news:ce18l5$blq$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].pol.co.uk...
> I have just done an open water swim practice with my club. Also the
furthest
> single swim (1.5 mile) without pushing off from a pool side every 25m.
> I really pushed it, done the lot, varied my breathing rhythm, practised
> drafting performed some intervals. When I exited the water I felt drunk,
the
> floor was moving the lot. Why would this happen? If it happened in a race
I
> would probably fall off the bike in transition.
> The water was cool but not cold and I was wearing a new Orca speedsuit
which
> felt good and warm, no swim hat and I felt warm leaving the water.
>
> I also found out how badly I Zig Zag in a 'straight' line between buoys. I
> was in a lake, in a swell Jeepers!
> Regards
> Kent
>
>

08-23-2004, 07:09 PM

"Kent" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk> wrote in message news:<ce18l5$blq$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].pol.co.uk>...
> I have just done an open water swim practice with my club. Also the furthest
> single swim (1.5 mile) without pushing off from a pool side every 25m.
> I really pushed it, done the lot, varied my breathing rhythm, practised
> drafting performed some intervals. When I exited the water I felt drunk, the
> floor was moving the lot. Why would this happen? If it happened in a race I
> would probably fall off the bike in transition.
> The water was cool but not cold and I was wearing a new Orca speedsuit which
> felt good and warm, no swim hat and I felt warm leaving the water.
>
> I also found out how badly I Zig Zag in a 'straight' line between buoys. I
> was in a lake, in a swell Jeepers!
> Regards
> Kent

That's because so much of your blood has been drawn to the working
muscles in your arms/chest, AND you are going from horizontal to
vertical--your legs are calling for blood, and it will leave your
upper body (including your head), and get into your legs. Like getting
up in the morning and taking off running. A little shaky! Practice it.
Like coming off the bike and starting to run feels odd and takes a
while to smooth out. I found that if you just start trying "look like"
you are running--consciously make the muscles move like they do when
you are run--you will begin to approximate actual running, and then it
will smooth out. Don't race it--just get a slow steady jog going, keep
your steps short and don't stride out, i.e. keep our legs under you.

08-23-2004, 07:09 PM

On 26 Jul 2004 15:01:05 -0700, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Ironic) wrote:

>"Kent" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk> wrote in message news:<ce18l5$blq$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].pol.co.uk>...
>> I have just done an open water swim practice with my club. Also the furthest
>> single swim (1.5 mile) without pushing off from a pool side every 25m.
>> I really pushed it, done the lot, varied my breathing rhythm, practised
>> drafting performed some intervals. When I exited the water I felt drunk, the
>> floor was moving the lot. Why would this happen? If it happened in a race I
>> would probably fall off the bike in transition.
>> The water was cool but not cold and I was wearing a new Orca speedsuit which
>> felt good and warm, no swim hat and I felt warm leaving the water.
>>
>> I also found out how badly I Zig Zag in a 'straight' line between buoys. I
>> was in a lake, in a swell Jeepers!
>> Regards
>> Kent
>
>That's because so much of your blood has been drawn to the working
>muscles in your arms/chest, AND you are going from horizontal to
>vertical--your legs are calling for blood, and it will leave your
>upper body (including your head), and get into your legs.

While I agree that blood flow is part of the equation, another factor
is the balance system inside the inner ear.

Think about it - you're horizontal for 30-45 minutes, but all the time
you're rotating your head back and forth on it's axis. The inner ear
gets used to this constant motion and compensates. Then all of a
sudden you stand up.

Guess what? The fluid in the inner ear is still sloshing around,
exciting the little hairs that it uses to sense motion (hence
balance.) It's the same physical phenomenon that causes us to be
dizzy after getting off one of those spinning fair rides. There's a
conflict in the brain with what the inner ear is sensing from the
fluid motion and what is actually happening.

It's a damn wonder any of us can exit the water without looking like a
bunch of drunks. <g>

Mike Tennent
IronPenguin Electronics
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Traffic lights, Crossing guards

08-23-2004, 07:09 PM

"Kent" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk> wrote in message news:<ce18l5$blq$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].pol.co.uk>...
> I have just done an open water swim practice with my club. Also the furthest
> single swim (1.5 mile) without pushing off from a pool side every 25m.
> I really pushed it, done the lot, varied my breathing rhythm, practised
> drafting performed some intervals. When I exited the water I felt drunk, the
> floor was moving the lot. Why would this happen? If it happened in a race I
> would probably fall off the bike in transition.
> The water was cool but not cold and I was wearing a new Orca speedsuit which
> felt good and warm, no swim hat and I felt warm leaving the water.
>
> I also found out how badly I Zig Zag in a 'straight' line between buoys. I
> was in a lake, in a swell Jeepers!
> Regards
> Kent

Just my 2c, I used to have the same problem, I found that keeping my
ears out of my swim cap solved the issue for me. When ever I put my
swim cap on over my ears, I would get dizzy after the swim. No more
staggering to T1. :)

David

08-23-2004, 07:09 PM

Thanks for the info people I shall try plugs first.

Kent

08-23-2004, 07:09 PM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> ,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Ironic) wrote:

> That's because so much of your blood has been drawn to the working
> muscles in your arms/chest, AND you are going from horizontal to
> vertical--your legs are calling for blood, and it will leave your
> upper body (including your head), and get into your legs.

Kick hard the last 200 m or so of the swim and you'll get blood flow
back to your legs before you have to stand up.

--Harold Buck

"I used to rock and roll all night,
and party every day.
Then it was every other day. . . ."
-Homer J. Simpson

08-23-2004, 07:09 PM

Shall try it thanks

Kent
> Kick hard the last 200 m or so of the swim and you'll get blood flow
> back to your legs before you have to stand up.
>
> --Harold Buck
>
>
> "I used to rock and roll all night,
> and party every day.
> Then it was every other day. . . ."
> -Homer J. Simpson