Taking a leak on the bike in a race - Triathlon Week

05-21-2005, 11:27 PM

Time for quick poll of fellow racers. How many of you peed while riding
your bike or observed this practice in a race? Me and the racer in front
of me were provided a shower from what we thought was a leaky water bottle
at the Auburn Int. Race today. Needless to say we were both a bit pissed
off, forgive the pun. On of my buddies at the race said it is not an
uncommon practice. I spent the last 15 miles of the ride determining how to
handle the situation and choose to walk up to him in transition and tell him
he was an a$$hole and no where near fast enough to make saving 30 seconds
worth pissing on fellow racers (This was 1/2IM distance race). A real
shower a few beers later I have calmed down enough to talk about this with
out 4 letter words but still am dumbfounded by this ignorance. Any
opinions?

05-22-2005, 01:20 AM

A. J. wrote:
> Time for quick poll of fellow racers. How many of you peed while riding
> your bike or observed this practice in a race? Me and the racer in front
> of me were provided a shower from what we thought was a leaky water bottle
> at the Auburn Int. Race today. Needless to say we were both a bit pissed
> off, forgive the pun. On of my buddies at the race said it is not an
> uncommon practice. I spent the last 15 miles of the ride determining how to
> handle the situation and choose to walk up to him in transition and tell him
> he was an a$$hole and no where near fast enough to make saving 30 seconds
> worth pissing on fellow racers (This was 1/2IM distance race). A real
> shower a few beers later I have calmed down enough to talk about this with
> out 4 letter words but still am dumbfounded by this ignorance. Any
> opinions?

I have never done this nor have I seen it done. However, I have heard
lots of my fellow riders say that they have, including a female rider.

05-22-2005, 02:52 AM

On Sat, 21 May 2005 22:27:48 -0700, "A. J." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>dumbfounded by this ignorance.

Who's ignorance? Yours for needing 15 miles to think about something
of little consequence?

JT

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05-22-2005, 06:37 AM

"A. J." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
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> Time for quick poll of fellow racers. How many of you peed while
> riding your bike or observed this practice in a race? Me and the
> racer in front of me were provided a shower from what we thought was a
> leaky water bottle at the Auburn Int. Race today. Needless to say we
> were both a bit pissed off, forgive the pun. On of my buddies at the
> race said it is not an uncommon practice. I spent the last 15 miles
> of the ride determining how to handle the situation and choose to walk
> up to him in transition and tell him he was an a$$hole and no where
> near fast enough to make saving 30 seconds worth pissing on fellow
> racers (This was 1/2IM distance race). A real shower a few beers
> later I have calmed down enough to talk about this with out 4 letter
> words but still am dumbfounded by this ignorance. Any opinions?
>
>

I have, but never in such a way that it was possible for another cyclist
to get wet. Did he pee over his shoulder, or were you drafting? If he
peed over his shoulder, you're right, he's a jerk. If you were drafting,
perhaps we should all pee on you. :-)

05-22-2005, 06:40 AM

"A. J." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
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> I spent the last 15 miles of the ride determining how to
> handle the situation and choose to walk up to him in transition and
> tell him he was an a$$hole and no where near fast enough to make
> saving 30 seconds worth pissing on fellow racers (This was 1/2IM
> distance race).

Just out of curiosity, what was his reaction? Did he apologize, or tell you
to step off?

05-22-2005, 12:34 PM

On Sun, 22 May 2005 08:47:29 -0700, "A. J." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>
>"John Forrest Tomlinson" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>
>> Who's ignorance? Yours for needing 15 miles to think about something
>> of little consequence?
>>
>
>Thanks for the personal attack on this forum, now I will waste another 15
>miles pissed at your comment.
>
>Really, have you ever had someone piss on you?

Piss directly on me? No. Caught in spray in a race? Yes. I've had
sweat from other people hit me too. Who cares -- it doesn't carry
cooties.

Maybe I wasn't thick skinned
>enough but I took it as a personal insult. I could have understood this in
>a Sprint or Olympic from a top age grouper or pro but for a guy who is
>sitting around 150 out of 380 in a long course, what's to gain?

How stupid are you to just let it happen and mull it over rather than
simply avoid it or yell at the guy if you don't like it? It only
costs you a few more seconds to use your brain and keep your eyes open
in the middle of the race to see what's going on.

I mean, I could understand someone heading to a top finish
concentrating so hard they couldn't even contemplate voicing
objections on the spot, but as a MOP person are you going so hard you
can't even figure out how to stop it or avoid it? Wow.

>
>BTW, lets keep comments above the belt to keep this forum productive.

It's worthwhile pointing out stupid comments -- hopefully it will
discourage other similar comments.

JT

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05-22-2005, 12:35 PM

On Sun, 22 May 2005 08:26:17 -0700, "A. J." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>
>I was about 25 ft back and gaining to pass. It was a USAT legal pass, no
>drafting.

So you're complaining about a few drops of urine spray? Unless the
guy was bleeding in his urine, the stuff is sterile. You could
probably drink it with no ill effects.

JT

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05-22-2005, 02:06 PM

Check the archives for anything with the word pee in it. It's been one
of the favorite subjects for as many years as I've been here. Lots of
colorful details in some of the longest threads you can imagine being
spun on the subject. Highly entertaining.

Ruth Kazez

05-22-2005, 10:12 PM

In article <Xns965E4EC3FA9A1TomH4thBellSouthnet@216.77.188.18 >,
Tom Henderson <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> I have, but never in such a way that it was possible for another cyclist
> to get wet. Did he pee over his shoulder, or were you drafting?

How do you pee over your shoulder unless you're John Holmes?

--Harold Buck

"I used to rock and roll all night,
and party every day.
Then it was every other day. . . ."
-Homer J. Simpson

05-23-2005, 05:37 AM

Harold Buck <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
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> In article <Xns965E4EC3FA9A1TomH4thBellSouthnet@216.77.188.18 >,
> Tom Henderson <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> I have, but never in such a way that it was possible for another
>> cyclist to get wet. Did he pee over his shoulder, or were you
>> drafting?
>
> How do you pee over your shoulder unless you're John Holmes?
>
> --Harold Buck
>
>
> "I used to rock and roll all night,
> and party every day.
> Then it was every other day. . . ."
> -Homer J. Simpson
>

What, you can't?

;-)

I was kidding. I was having a difficult time figuring out how one gets
drenched in urine from another cyclist unless one is very, very, close at
the time. AJ claims to have been 25 feet back at the time. This makes me
think that (a) AJ didn't really get touched by any/much urine, or (b) he
was much closer than 25 feet and chooses not to admit it, or (c) porn
stars use triathlon training to keep that fit look.

05-23-2005, 08:43 AM

Drenched no, a bit of spray yes. The guy in between us got the worst of it.
Remember we were both passing, so yes, we got closer than 25 ft but only
after we figured out what was going on and got off the left.
I have to admit, based on the responses from the group here, I have
come to the realization this must be a more common thing and not that big of
a deal. I supposed I overreacted a bit although I now know how to
differentiate between a leaky water bottle and a leaky cyclist.

"Tom Henderson" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:Xns965F44248A35BTomH4thBellSouthnet@216.77.18 8.18...
> Harold Buck <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].giganews.com:
>
> > In article <Xns965E4EC3FA9A1TomH4thBellSouthnet@216.77.188.18 >,
> > Tom Henderson <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> >
> >> I have, but never in such a way that it was possible for another
> >> cyclist to get wet. Did he pee over his shoulder, or were you
> >> drafting?
> >
> > How do you pee over your shoulder unless you're John Holmes?
> >
> > --Harold Buck
> >
> >
> > "I used to rock and roll all night,
> > and party every day.
> > Then it was every other day. . . ."
> > -Homer J. Simpson
> >
>
> What, you can't?
>
> ;-)
>
> I was kidding. I was having a difficult time figuring out how one gets
> drenched in urine from another cyclist unless one is very, very, close at
> the time. AJ claims to have been 25 feet back at the time. This makes me
> think that (a) AJ didn't really get touched by any/much urine, or (b) he
> was much closer than 25 feet and chooses not to admit it, or (c) porn
> stars use triathlon training to keep that fit look.

05-23-2005, 10:04 AM

A. J. wrote:
> Drenched no, a bit of spray yes. The guy in between us got the worst of it.
> Remember we were both passing, so yes, we got closer than 25 ft but only
> after we figured out what was going on and got off the left.
> I have to admit, based on the responses from the group here, I have
> come to the realization this must be a more common thing and not that big of
> a deal. I supposed I overreacted a bit although I now know how to
> differentiate between a leaky water bottle and a leaky cyclist.
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Hi A.J.

I hadn't commented until now, but I don't want you to get the idea that
your reaction was unusual or uncommon. I've gotten spray from spit and
someone blowing their nose, but never have I been caught in a spray of
urine.

I'm not what I'd call unreasonable, but if someone in front of me was
taking a leak on their bike, I'd expect them to be sure no one else
would be caught in the spray. I'm not sure, but I have to believe that
peeing from your bike would get you disqualified, or at least penalized
in a USAT race. I mean, you can't strip in the transition area, right?

Anyway, hopefully the guy will be more careful in the future.

Bob

05-23-2005, 10:28 AM

On Mon, 23 May 2005 12:04:34 -0400, Bob Haase
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> I've gotten spray from spit and
>someone blowing their nose, but never have
>I been caught in a spray of
> urine.

Spit and stuff out the nose is way less sanitary than urine.

JT

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05-23-2005, 11:54 AM

In article <s8nke.2882$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
Bob Haase <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>
> I'm not what I'd call unreasonable, but if someone in front of me was
> taking a leak on their bike, I'd expect them to be sure no one else
> would be caught in the spray.

Unless you were draftig, in which case it was probably intentional.

> I'm not sure, but I have to believe that
> peeing from your bike would get you disqualified, or at least penalized
> in a USAT race. I mean, you can't strip in the transition area, right?
>

How do you distinguish between someone who is incontinent and someone
who does it intentionally? I mean, assuming he doesn't whip it out (I'm
normally very careful to use gender-neutral pronouns, but I think I'm on
solid ground here). And it's not that uncommon for people to have GI
trouble and take a dump in their shorts, though thankfully it's never
happened near me.

I did hear that they were very strict about people not peeing in the
penalty area in T2 at IM Hawaii since it used to get pretty gross by the
end of the day.

--Harold Buck

"I used to rock and roll all night,
and party every day.
Then it was every other day. . . ."
-Homer J. Simpson

05-23-2005, 02:20 PM

Why would you want to pee on your bike ? Are you trying to clean it ? I
think soap and water works better, but if you are a stickler for a clean
bike and there is no water around in the middle of a race, I guess this
would work. Just don't use too much "pressure" around the bearings area

"A. J." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> Time for quick poll of fellow racers. How many of you peed while riding
> your bike or observed this practice in a race? Me and the racer in front
> of me were provided a shower from what we thought was a leaky water bottle
> at the Auburn Int. Race today. Needless to say we were both a bit pissed
> off, forgive the pun. On of my buddies at the race said it is not an
> uncommon practice. I spent the last 15 miles of the ride determining how
> to
> handle the situation and choose to walk up to him in transition and tell
> him
> he was an a$$hole and no where near fast enough to make saving 30 seconds
> worth pissing on fellow racers (This was 1/2IM distance race). A real
> shower a few beers later I have calmed down enough to talk about this with
> out 4 letter words but still am dumbfounded by this ignorance. Any
> opinions?
>
>